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All Categories > Name that Tune! > Melody forum > Catchy tune - title escapes me
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user picture Author: rt
Posted: Jun 08 2008 - 08:15 PM
Subject: re: re: re: re: Catchy tune - title escapes me
oh, I see. Then I need to do something there too. It is pretty much the same problem and the same solution. Right now, for efficiency reasons, for the Parsons Code, I do a preselection based on what is most similar to the first couple of characters, and calculate the actual distance only for that preselection. Because of this, there is more weight on the first character than there should be.
user picture Author: beerslayer
Posted: Jun 05 2008 - 05:33 AM
Subject: re: re: re: Catchy tune - title escapes me
Well, for whatever it's worth, I generally use the Parsons code to search for melodies, as I did in this case. I did not attempt to use any of the other tools on this site. I hope that helps you track down the missed search result.
user picture Author: rt
Posted: Jun 03 2008 - 01:02 PM
Subject: re: re: Catchy tune - title escapes me
rainerd wrote:
Tchaikovsky, Piotr Ilich: Swan lake, Dance of the Little Swans

This is already in Musipedia, thus it's peculiar that "search Musipedia for this" doesn't find it ... Perhaps because your sample is longer than the one stored in Musipedia, and the search does not allow for a "truncated" match?

Best regards,

Rainer



Looks like the latest changes in the search algorithm made it a bit too sensitive to a single mismatching note (see what happens if one omits the first note: http://www.musipedia.org/search.0.html?sourceid=melody-url&tx_mpsearch_pi1[submit_button]=Search&onlymatchfrom=0.3&categories=CPAH&tx_mpsearch_pi1[pc]=hum+0.5-60-0.5%2F1-60-0.5%2F1.5-60-0.5%2F2-60-0.5%2F2.5-59-0.25%2F2.75-60-0.25%2F3-62-0.5%2F3.5-60-0.5%2F4-59-0 ).

Well, I already know how to address this. Right now, for the pitch component, I search for nearest neighbours only in the subspace with the same dimensionality (same number of notes). I need to tunnel across subspaces to be able to tolerate mismatches like this and still recognize the similarity apart from one note that does not match.

- Rainer



Author: rainerd
Posted: Jun 03 2008 - 09:23 AM
Subject: re: Catchy tune - title escapes me
Tchaikovsky, Piotr Ilich: Swan lake, Dance of the Little Swans

This is already in Musipedia, thus it's peculiar that "search Musipedia for this" doesn't find it ... Perhaps because your sample is longer than the one stored in Musipedia, and the search does not allow for a "truncated" match?

Best regards,

Rainer

user picture Author: beerslayer
Posted: Jun 03 2008 - 07:11 AM
Subject: Catchy tune - title escapes me
I can't place this tune, although the melody is extremely familiar. Here's as much of it as I could remember well enough to enter here... if anyone out there knows the name of the piece this melody is taken from, please enlighten me. Thanks!

 
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How to insert music:

Add a bit of sheet music, along with a MIDI file, simply by entering note names in Lilypond syntax between the [L] and [/L] tags.
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  2. You should notice a 32-character hash code, something like: 2a40281c5001c5a7d8c9f57fcdeccfaf
  3. copy this hash code and paste it into a forum post, enclosed in the audio tags, for example: [audio]2a40281c5001c5a7d8c9f57fcdeccfaf[/audio]

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